We’ve got big plans for when we retire. We’re going to kick the kids out of the house if they’re still hanging around, sell it, buy a yacht, sail around the world, and get a tattoo in every country we visit. It’ll be like a passport stamp, but...different. Because it’s a tattoo.
Anyway, we’ve been working with Bruno, our CFP, for years. But now that we’re getting closer to retirement, he’s recommending we also have a sit-down with his colleague Jessica, who is a Retirement Income Certified Professional, or RICP.
What’s an RICP? It’s like a Certified Financial Planner, but they specialize in retirement stuff. They’ll help us figure out how much money we need, how much to invest it and where, how much to save and which types of accounts we should save it in, which tax credits and other benefits we might be eligible for, and all kinds of other retirement-finance related things. Qualified folks who want this prestigious professional designation have to take three courses, pass an exam, and promise to uphold certain ethical principles, i.e. not be shady.
Sounds like we need to talk to Jessica posthaste so we can get our tattoo sailing mission underway.
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Finance allah shmoop what are ira distributions and well how
do they work Well the big idea here iras or
individual retirement accounts are not tax free Yeah you do
pay tax but only when you withdraw the money out
of the ira Ok so backing up b b pete
you make eighty grand a year is a union told
booth worker in california taking five dollar bills from drivers
and putting them in the little slot thing here Brutal
rigorous highly stressful job Yes you have a pension that
the government you work for contributes taxpayer dollars to pay
for You also have an ira and you contribute five
grand a year to that ira Well that five grand
comes out of the eighty grand you'd normally be fully
taxed on But instead of the eighty grand that the
irs would normally worry about well as faras they're concerned
this year you didn't make eighty grand You made seventy
five grand Why Because you contributed voluntarily five grand to
your ira and it'll sit in that separate special account
likely invested in the stock market so that it compounds
away doubling about every six seven eight nine years until
you retire with five grand contributions year after year after
year you'll have a full million bucks in there By
the time you retire at sixty five and maybe a
little more maybe it'll left and you'll have the option
to start withdrawing from the ira at that point Or
you can wait to start withdrawing the money until you've
hit the maximum age of seventy and a half at
which point the law makes you start to withdraw the
money And there's a whole schedule on when you can
withdraw it how you can withdraw and all that Anyway
That withdrawal process is kind of a big deal because
small tweaks in it make a huge difference Like if
you had saved money beyond the ira i e Your
personal savings accounts and could live on that another five
and a half years Well then if the market followed
historical patterns instead of beginning your ira withdrawals from a
base of a million dollars in there While you have
compounded that million bucks another five and a half years
worth it so that it was then worth maybe a
million six or a million seven by the the time
you were seventeen and a half That's an extra six
or seven hundred grand there that would happen just for
you being ableto wait to start withdrawing Well why is
there a must in there like the government needs to
tax you somehow right So that's why you must start
withdrawing it at some point And remember that money went
into the ira and sat there compounding tax free for
decades But now when you take it out you'll pay
ordinary income rates on it So why not the cheaper
long term gain rates Well why Because it was income
active income you earned and quote should have been unquote
taxed as ordinary income when you earned it But you
weren't so well now it's time for the tax man
teo You know coming the logic behind the creation of
the ira was that investors in it would be paying
a lower tax rates when they were old I e
making less money as geezers than they did when they
were in the peaks of their careers So under the
progressive tax system whose rates look something like this instead
of paying a marginal rate of say forty three percent
on that five grand that was saved as a geezer
taking out relatively small amounts toe live on Well you're
paying more like thirty percent or less on that marginal
dollar So how much do you take out of the
ira Alright well there's that schedule thing again And the
focus is the minimums you must withdraw What you khun
distribute to yourself more than the minimums But then you
have to take out a set percentage each year So
here's how that works Look at the table here Right
here They ira required minimum distribution worksheet in eight seventy
You're going to divide us Say at a million bucks
in there you're gonna divide that by twenty seven point
four That's the amount you have to distribute this year
Let's say the market went up Whatever One twenty seventh
is more than that even And well then all the
sudden of a million two or a million three Well
by aged call it eighty You have to distribute whatever
that amount is divided by eighteen point seven You get
all the way to one hundred Well you have to
basically divided by six and that's the amount you have
to distribute So let's say you had a i'll say
had six hundred thousand dollars in there at eight hundred
you're going divided by six point three means that six
hundred thousand You have to distribute one hundred grand back
to yourself leaving you five hundred grand Yeah that's kind
of how the system works in more or less Anyway
that twenty seven numbers the denominator in the total assets
in the ira get divided by it And that's the
number The ira beneficiary which would be you if it's
your ira must take out of the ira fund in
this year and notjust how much age matters here In
fact it's kind of everything in this calculation So let's
look at age seventy seven for example the divisor here
is twenty one point two That means that whatever the
total assets worrying the ira as of the end of
the year that amounts divided by twenty one point two
And it's that amount that must be taken out of
the ira and quote distributed to you unquote usually in
the form of your writing A check out of the
ira to yourself that's housed in your normal brokerage account
So let's say that at seventy seven you had a
million bucks from your hard earned scrimping and saving You
take a million dollars in the numerator and divided by
twenty one point two to get forty seven thousand one
hundred seventy dollars It's that amount that you'd have to
take out of the ira and be taxed on at
ordinary income rates and well hopefully live to fight another
day Notice that the divisor increased dramatically as you get
older here like we said And when the iris starts
at age seventy divide by twenty seven point four We
only have to distribute a small amount of doughty yourself
a few percent and be taxed on it But by
eight hundred here Yeah you're doing the six point three
dance Meaning that the government doesn't think you're gonna live
much longer Well why do they do that Yeah well
here's the guy thing is knocking really loud by age
one hundred Very few people live past that age And
those who d'oh well usually have trouble hearing the doorbell
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